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From: <bigboom-at-adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: C6C??? [TANKS]
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:54:39 -0800
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

if anyone is interested i have a set of plans for a sherman 1/4 scale includes 
instructions for turret gun installation. $40 tyd
---- Grant Mahalek <gmahalek-at-shaw.ca> wrote: 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> Your next plan for the C6C Gamepad approach  with the all digital controller 
> system sounds very interesting, elegant and economical!
> 
> I'd be very interested in more details and availability in the new year.
> 
> Really appreciate the R & D you guys are doing in the spirit of the hobby!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant P. Mahalek
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Pittelli" <frank-at-rctankcombat.com>
> To: <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: C6C??? [TANKS]
> 
> 
> > Robert Bottomley wrote:
> >> One other question, what about frequencies?
> >> If two people have the same pad will they interfere with one another?
> >
> > Each of the wireless gamepad vendors allow up to a certain number of 
> > gamepads (usually at least 16) to be used at the same time without 
> > interference.  So, when using the same brand, there will be no problems 
> > until more than 16 are being used.
> >
> > Interference between two brands is handled by the 2.4Ghz standard, which 
> > requires "all" devices to handle conflicts somehow.  That is, in order to 
> > get an FCC license to operate in the 2.4Ghz range, the radio manufacturer 
> > has to make sure they can handle interference from other devices. 
> > Unfortunately, there are no specifics on how every vendor handles this 
> > stuff, but given the large number of devices playing in that space, you 
> > can be sure they're doing something.
> >
> > We'll have to have more battlefield experience before we know where the 
> > real crush point is.  And, I think by the time we have the problem of too 
> > many people on the battlefield using C6C's (that's a "good" problem to 
> > have), we'll have a more advanced tank controller that uses it's own 
> > 2.4Ghz radio parts with unique identification of all tanks on the field 
> > (which is one of the benefits of moving to the 2.4Ghz radio solution).
> >
> > For now, just don't have more than 16 tanks using the same wireless 
> > gamepad brand in your backyard at the same time :-)
> >
> >> I have seen the Pelican advertised for $17.95, a heck of a lot cheaper 
> >> than
> >> a standard 6 channel RC radio set.
> >
> > Now you've figured out the madness between Cheap Control Systems!!!  The 
> > cost of the kit, gamepad and some old servos is less than 1/2 the cost of 
> > a 6 channel RC radio (assuming you can find one on a ground freq). 
> > Granted, the range is much lower, but nobody really operates their tank 
> > from that far away anyway.  And, I can assure you from actual battlefield 
> > usage, the gamepad is *sooooooooo* much nicer to use ... smaller, more 
> > robust and easier to control.  (Ask Mr. Tyng how well the Tiger was 
> > shooting at the Cromwell in the last battle.)  My *lack* of transmitter 
> > skills is legendary in R/C warship and tank combat, but the gamepad has 
> > started to erase those bad memories :-)
> >
> > But, this is just the starting point.  Our next plan is to combine the 
> > gamepad approach with an all digital controller (no servos) that provides 
> > steering, speed control, turret rotate, elevate and firing. Slice the cost 
> > of the radio system in half, then slice the price of the controllers by 
> > 1/2 to 2/3.  The total savings should be enough to pay for motors, 
> > batteries and a used marker!!!  And, if we do it right, everything can 
> > still be repaired by the user if something breaks with just a soldering 
> > iron.  Inexpensive, good-enough and maintenance friendly.
> >
> > Frank P.
> > 
> 
>