Re: C6C??? [TANKS]

["Showa" <showa1-at-cox.net>]

That sounds good to me Frank....By the time I get mine rolling you'll have 
it ready...LOL

Kurt (the Alliance is slow) g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Pittelli" <frank-at-rctankcombat.com>
To: <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: C6C??? [TANKS]


> Robert Bottomley wrote:
>> One other question, what about frequencies?
>> If two people have the same pad will they interfere with one another?
>
> Each of the wireless gamepad vendors allow up to a certain number of 
> gamepads (usually at least 16) to be used at the same time without 
> interference.  So, when using the same brand, there will be no problems 
> until more than 16 are being used.
>
> Interference between two brands is handled by the 2.4Ghz standard, which 
> requires "all" devices to handle conflicts somehow.  That is, in order to 
> get an FCC license to operate in the 2.4Ghz range, the radio manufacturer 
> has to make sure they can handle interference from other devices. 
> Unfortunately, there are no specifics on how every vendor handles this 
> stuff, but given the large number of devices playing in that space, you 
> can be sure they're doing something.
>
> We'll have to have more battlefield experience before we know where the 
> real crush point is.  And, I think by the time we have the problem of too 
> many people on the battlefield using C6C's (that's a "good" problem to 
> have), we'll have a more advanced tank controller that uses it's own 
> 2.4Ghz radio parts with unique identification of all tanks on the field 
> (which is one of the benefits of moving to the 2.4Ghz radio solution).
>
> For now, just don't have more than 16 tanks using the same wireless 
> gamepad brand in your backyard at the same time :-)
>
>> I have seen the Pelican advertised for $17.95, a heck of a lot cheaper 
>> than
>> a standard 6 channel RC radio set.
>
> Now you've figured out the madness between Cheap Control Systems!!!  The 
> cost of the kit, gamepad and some old servos is less than 1/2 the cost of 
> a 6 channel RC radio (assuming you can find one on a ground freq). 
> Granted, the range is much lower, but nobody really operates their tank 
> from that far away anyway.  And, I can assure you from actual battlefield 
> usage, the gamepad is *sooooooooo* much nicer to use ... smaller, more 
> robust and easier to control.  (Ask Mr. Tyng how well the Tiger was 
> shooting at the Cromwell in the last battle.)  My *lack* of transmitter 
> skills is legendary in R/C warship and tank combat, but the gamepad has 
> started to erase those bad memories :-)
>
> But, this is just the starting point.  Our next plan is to combine the 
> gamepad approach with an all digital controller (no servos) that provides 
> steering, speed control, turret rotate, elevate and firing. Slice the cost 
> of the radio system in half, then slice the price of the controllers by 
> 1/2 to 2/3.  The total savings should be enough to pay for motors, 
> batteries and a used marker!!!  And, if we do it right, everything can 
> still be repaired by the user if something breaks with just a soldering 
> iron.  Inexpensive, good-enough and maintenance friendly.
>
> Frank P.
>