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From: "Marc en Wendy" <marcmethorst-at-zonnet.nl>
Subject: Re: Starting to build a tank [TANKS]
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:19:41 +0100
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

I have seen this tank at Beltring (home of the War and Peace Show) several 
times. Allthough it is obviously a 'pimped' T55, it's the best that 
reenactment can offer on Tigers.
In the War and Peace Show they have a few mock battles in the arena every 
year, WWII style, Vietnam style, desert warfare style and they are quite fun 
to watch. This Tiger is a good replacement for the real deal and does the 
job for reenactment purposes. During those battles, the story of the 
Germanised Russian is explained to the public. It's another thing when they 
use it for documentaries or films. I can recall watching poorly disguised 
Leopard 1 tanks rolling over the Arnhem bridge in ''A bridge too far'' and 
''Battle of the Bulge'' also has a few tank mix ups.
Unfortunately we now a thing or two about tanks but the majority of the 
crowd couldn't tell the difference between a Tiger and a T55.

Marc

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick v100" <rickv100-at-yahoo.com>
To: <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Starting to build a tank [TANKS]


> Steve,
>
> Probably one of the Tigers made up for Saving Private
> Ryan on a T55 chassis. There are a few floating around
> over in the UK.
>
> Is this the one you saw?
>
> http://cm.thewarandpeaceshow.com/gallery/album05/Tiger_2
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> --- Steve Edwards <sedwards-at-awger.net> wrote:
>> Rick v100 wrote:
>>
>> >Sam not John is on the beer bottle.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Must... not... laugh... :-)
>>
>> ObOnTopic: Caught a show on the Military Channel,
>> don't remember the
>> name of it, but it was a "Tiger vs Sherman" thing.
>> Pretty interesting.
>> They tried real hard to give the Sherman its due,
>> but it mostly came out
>> looking like the homely girl down the street that
>> nobody asked to the dance.
>>
>> Anyway... they had a couple of real tanks running
>> around the countryside
>> doing reenactments interspersed with historical
>> footage; as I'm watching
>> this show, something keeps nagging at me as being
>> "not quite right." I
>> recall they had at least two different Shermans
>> (probably from two
>> different places and on two separate occasions), one
>> with VSS and one
>> with HSS, and they were doing some digital camera
>> tricks to make it look
>> like there were four Shermans instead of one, but
>> that wasn't it.
>>
>> I ran the show back to the beginning (gotta love
>> TiVo) and started
>> watching the Tiger more closely... thought the
>> tracks looked a little
>> narrow (nope, that wasn't it). It had a small drive
>> sprocket (maybe a
>> replacement, couldn't find an original?). Then they
>> had a shot of this
>> "Tiger" rolling across a ditch and pitching up on
>> the far side, and I
>> finally noticed the roadwheels weren't spaced right.
>> In fact, the
>> suspension was completely wrong (wrong number of
>> axles, and the
>> roadwheels didn't overlap), and the small drive
>> sprocket up front was
>> just an idler, and the drive sprocket was in the
>> back.
>>
>> So, it looked like a Tiger up top but looked more
>> like a T-34 on the bottom.
>>
>> The credits at the end referenced Bovington, and I
>> know they have a real
>> Tiger (with a blown engine?), but I don't think this
>> was it.
>>
>> Anybody know what the fake Tiger was?
>>
>>     - Steve "No presidents named Guiness" Edwards
>>
>>
>>
>
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