Re: Any Suggestions? [TANKS]

["jon s kowitz" <jonskowitz-at-hotmail.com>]

It looks like T#020 is using something similar (though it's hard to get a 
good view.  I could draw up some plans of my intended suspention system and 
I'll also (eventually) have pictures up for it too.

Speaking of which, how does one get registered as an official RC tank?

>From: Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com>
>Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
>To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
>Subject: Re: Any Suggestions? [TANKS]
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:00:18 +1300
>
>would anyone have any diagrams as to the construction of a similar
>suspension for 1/6 scale?
>
>
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:51:58 +0000, jon s kowitz <jonskowitz-at-hotmail.com> 
>wrote:
> > 'Fraid you won't find a 1:6 kit (if that's what you were axeing).  You 
>can
> > find Pics and information on these sites.
> >
> > http://www.onwar.com/tanks/uk/fvalentine2.htm
> > 
>http://24.108.132.39/it/examples/Personal%20Websites/99-00%20Grade%2011/Tanks/ww2_tanks_uk.html
> > http://www.valourandhorror.com/DB/SPEC/tank/UK_armour_1.htm#Valentine
> >
> > and a couple of 1/35 model kits
> > http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?MAQ-3553
> > http://www.hobbyterra.com/product.asp?idProduct=306
> >
> >  It was a British tank used up until 1943, and was used for a few 
>diferent
> > varients after that.  The valentine wasn't a bad tank for it's day (I 
>guess
> > their crews liked them).  Kinda frustrating that the frontal armor is 
>only
> > 5mm too thin for a '4 hit' rating (lol).  Oh well, at least I won't give
> > away too many points when I get nuked ;)
> >
> > >From: Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> > >To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> > >Subject: Re: Any Suggestions? [TANKS]
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:18:16 +1300
> > >
> > >where can I find the valentine?
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:00:21 +0000, jon s kowitz 
><jonskowitz-at-hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > > > Just from rading the battle-reports it would be benificial to keep 
>the
> > >thing
> > > > from rattling itself apart on rough terrain if nothing else.  
>Besides,
> > >it
> > > > would help keep more of the track in contact with the ground.
> > > >
> > > > The Valentine's suspension is pretty simple, just two roadwheels on 
>a
> > >common
> > > > road arm that pivots between the two road-wheels (actually, it's a
> > >little
> > > > more sophisticated than that, but not much).
> > > >
> > > > >From: Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> > > > >To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: Any Suggestions? [TANKS]
> > > > >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:33:14 +1300
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks guys for all the help. One last question, is it benificial 
>to
> > > > >install suspensiojn for the road wheels? If so, what would be some
> > > > >good ways of going about it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:39:07 -0500, Joe Sommer 
><anvilus9-at-adelphia.net>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Byron,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 04:22 PM 2/21/2005 +1300, Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com> 
>wrote:
> > > > > > > I was going to use the Tyng Track System driven by 2 Mini-EV
> > >motors
> > > > > > > (see http://www.robotcombat.com/marketplace_motorsmisc.html)
> > >attached
> > > > > > > to the drive wheel by a bike chain
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most current tanks use about 4 inch diameter drive
> > > > > > sprockets turning at about 400 rpm.  That produces
> > > > > > 4.76 mph.  I estimate that you need about 400 in-lbf
> > > > > > sprocket torque per track to perform a full skid turn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Using a 45:1 reduction on the Mini-EV motors to reduce
> > > > > > 18000 rpm to 400 rpm, increases torque from 4.04 in-lbf
> > > > > > (64.64 in-oz) to 182 in-lbf.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It appears that you would need two Mini-EV motors per
> > > > > > track (and two 45:1 reducers per track) to provide sufficient
> > > > > > sprocket torque.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 05:29 PM 2/21/2005 +1030, "chris barthelson"
> > > > ><barthelson88-at-hotmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > You could try the "EV-X" motors from www.surpluscenter.com 
>they
> > >are
> > > > > > > only $16.95 and the shiping is pretty reasonable. you could 
>also
> > >have
> > > > >a
> > > > > > > look at this site http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/motors.html
> > >they
> > > > >have
> > > > > > > very good prices on a few different motors and they would only
> > >have to
> > > > >ship
> > > > > > > from Australia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The SC300 24V 300W scooter motors from Oatley ($36 Aus) are the 
>same
> > > > > > ones that I tested for my post on Feb 9 2005
> > > > > > http://www.rctankcombat.com/archive/current/msg00156.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oatley's motor SC250G ($79 Aus) looks particularly promising.
> > >Although
> > > > >it
> > > > > > is more expensive, it already has a gear reducer built into it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both of these motors are manufactured by Unite Electric Motors
> > > > > > http://www.unitemotor.com/ with part numbers MY1016 and
> > > > > > MY1018slowdown respectively.  Unfortunately, I have not been
> > > > > > able to find a vendor in the US who carries the MY1018slowdown.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 06:47 PM 2/21/2005 +1300, Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com> 
>wrote:
> > > > > > >Also, How many channels does it require to run an Anvilus or 
>Tri
> > >pact
> > > > > > >speed contorller?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > two channels
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both speed controllers perform right-left mixing to use one
> > > > > > joystick for driving.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 09:25 PM 2/21/2005 +1300, Byron <klingemeister-at-gmail.com> 
>wrote:
> > > > > > >How would the paintball gun elevation and firing work, could 
>theu
> > > > > > >possibly be combined into one channel?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They could be combined but it would be very difficult to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recommend buying a five or six channel radio.
> > > > > > 2 ch for tracks
> > > > > > 1 ch for turret rotate
> > > > > > 1 ch for gun elevate
> > > > > > 1 ch for trigger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can use a 4 channel radio for a tank destroyer
> > > > > > with no turret.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **********************************************
> > > > > > Joe Sommer, Anvilus Machine Works
> > > > > > 2378 Nantucket Circle, State College, PA 16803
> > > > > > 814.234.4773     anvilus9-at-adelphia.net
> > > > > > http://www.anvilus.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >I'm going out to find myself, if you see me here, keep me here 
>untill
> > > > >I can catch up
> > > > >
> > > > >If I haven't said so already,
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks
> > > > >Byron
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >I'm going out to find myself, if you see me here, keep me here untill
> > >I can catch up
> > >
> > >If I haven't said so already,
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Byron
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>I'm going out to find myself, if you see me here, keep me here untill
>I can catch up
>
>If I haven't said so already,
>
>Thanks
>Byron