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From: "John Barager" <gogetta20-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone considered Tin?
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:24:49 -0400
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

13:1 is a reserved estimate, as only one A7V was lost to fire solely from an 
allied tank (Actually, it was 5 british Mk.IV Males that took the single A7V 
down, they ganged it). And two others lost by combination Allied tanks and 
Artillery/infantry. As opposed to the known 50 or so Allied tanks lost to 
the A7V over it's 6-engagement lifetime (First day a tank-tank battle 
happened, 3 Mk.IV's and 4 Med.A's were destroyed by just 2 A7V's).  And the 
thing about the machine guns, no they did not fire armour piercing rounds, 
the main gun (57mm) fired high explosive and armour piercing rounds, and 
that is how it made the holes (I'm aware of the battle you're refering too 
also). The thing you must remember is, the A7V had double the armour 
thickness of allied tanks at the time, and although they did fall over un 
uneven terrain, or break down frequently, they still were able to hold their 
own against allied tanks. If there had been more then 20 built (Blame German 
war ministry for they, they didn't believe in the tank.. of course they 
changed their mines for the second war), and had they been fielded earlier 
with better trained men, they would have had a huge impact on the war.

----Original Message Follows----
From: &quot;Nembo&quot; &lt;Nembo-at-bellsouth.net&gt;
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
To: &lt;tanks-at-rctankcombat.com&gt;
Subject: Re: Anyone considered Tin?
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:58:23 -0500

A 13-1 kill ratio sounds a little big for a tank that fell on it side, and 
could barly turn depenading on the terain. All the same its a cool tank I 
must admitt. On the other hand those machine guns on the side were not 
worthless against other tanks of the day, remeber they in many cases fired 
armour pierceing rounds, in at least one engagment that I know of two mark 
IV females were forced to leave a battle with A7V after having big wholes 
blown in thier sides.

----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;John Barager&quot; 
To: &lt;tanks-at-rctankcombat.com&gt;
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone considered Tin?

&gt;Well, if you decide to build one, drop me an e-mail or post
&gt;something here, I'sd be more then happy to help. And spam this
&gt;mailing list with A7V info, lol.
&gt;But if it's far enough in the future (A a year or so) then I'll send
&gt;you a copy of the book I am working on of the A7V.
&gt;Although I have to admit, it would be really cool to have a pair of
&gt;A7V replicas in the battlefeild. Please don;t make the
&gt;&quot;generalization&quot; mistake.. I hate that. All 20 A7V's were 
&gt;in appearance for various reasons.
&gt;And I'm using the single gun in the front. All 6 other guns are
&gt;Maxim 08/15 Machine guns, and thus worthless as a main armament.
&gt;- John &quot;Uber-Strumpanzerwagen nerd&quot; Barager.
&gt;----Original Message Follows----
&gt;From: &amp;quot;chris barthelson&amp;quot; 
&gt;Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
&gt;To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
&gt;Subject: Re: Anyone considered Tin?
&gt;Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:47:15 +1030
&gt;It certainly would be an impressive tank to see cruising the
&gt;battlefield! I think my next tank should be an A7V I've always liked
&gt;them. Are you going to use the front gun or the side two? If I build
&gt;one I'll just use the front gun as it would be easier to build.
&gt;Check Hoyts movie times via SMS: