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From: "WJ" <WJ-at-vdtogt.nl>
Subject: Re: Requesting information on a great hobby!
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:24:58 +0200 (CEST)
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

My appologies to our US Tankers and other nationalities for writing Dutch
here . We are just talking tracks here, we aren't making fun of you,
really!
----
Hi Sigismund, ik zal je meteen in-seinen wat betreft mijn bronnen voor
Nederlandse sites over tanks en onderdelen:
1. www.twenot.nl plus http://www.twenot-forums.nl/
2. www.modelbouwforum.nl (Hier kwam www.mcc-nl.nl vandaan)
3. Leveranciers etc: www.conrad.nl en http://www.wielen-bandenhuis.nl

Ik hoor het graag als jij nog info vindt!

> hallo!,
> dankjewel voor de link!, ik zou uit mezelf nooit deze site gevonden hebben
> bedankt!
> groet sigismund.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WJ" <WJ-at-vdtogt.nl>
> To: <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Requesting information on a great hobby!
>
>
>> Hi Sigismund,
>> Leuk om een mede-enthousiasteling tegen te komen!  Eerlijk gezegd heb ik
>> nog niet verder gekeken naar die tracks, omdat ik zelf begonnen ben met
>> een 6-wiel voertuig ipv een tank.  Wel heb ik nog een andere leverancier
>> gezien voor tracks-achtig materiaal. Kijk eens naar : www.mcc-nl.nl.
>>
>> Het blijft prijzig volgens mij, ik had op mijn website een quote
>> neergezet
>> van een collega in de US, iets van 110 Dollar of zo.
>>
>> Ik hoor graag mocht je iets uitgevonden hebben.
>>
>> Groeten,
>> WJ
>>
>>
>> > hoi WJ,
>> > ik heb een vraag ,heb jij mischien meer info over die  kunststof
> tracks,ik
>> > zelf ben al een tijd op zoek naar goede tracks voor mijn panzer,als
>> jij
> ze
>> > mischien nog koopt kunnen we mischien samen een bestelling doen
>> kwantum
>> > inkoop korting en van die dingen!
>> > ik hoop dat deze tracks ook gewoon in nederland te koop zijn scheelt
>> een
>> > hoop gedoe!
>> > binnen kort post ik wat leuke shots van mijn 1:10 tiger bij de
>> arnhemse
>> > verkeers brug,reanactment pur sang.(haHA)
>> > de groeten van sigismund.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "WJ" <WJ-at-vdtogt.nl>
>> > To: <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:52 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Requesting information on a great hobby!
>> >
>> >
>> >> WOW, thank you for replying this quickly and completely. I was
>> working
>> >> on
>> >> my website and decided to add a page for RC Tanks (www.vdtogt.nl
>> under
>> >> RC
>> >> Tanks, duh)
>> >>
>> >> Anyways, since the main quarters of Intralox is located in Amsterdam
>> I
>> >> will give them a call.  Much obliged for your feedback!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Willem-Jan,
>> >> >
>> >> > Welcome to one of the most exciting hobbies
>> >> > that I have ever known.
>> >> >
>> >> > At 11:46 AM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >>>One of the tanks featured on your site is a Hetzer (#T010) built
>> by
>> >> Joe
>> >> >>>Sommer.  It's tracks are built from Intralox series 900 conveyor
>> >> belt.
>> >> >>> I
>> >> >>>was wondering why the builder used this series instead of the 4000
>> >> >>> series
>> >> >>>(Which looks more like real tracks.)  I would love to hear his
>> >> feedback
>> >> >>> so
>> >> >>>I can decide which to choose. (I am also wondering about the
> pricing)
>> >> >
>> >> > I agree that Intralox 4009 flush grid looks much
>> >> > more like actual track.  However, I did not try it
>> >> > for two reasons.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) Series 4000 is side-flexing conveyor chain
>> >> > that can turn corners.  Series 900 is straight
>> >> > running belt.
>   I thought that straight chain would
>> >> > have less possibility of throwing track during skid
>> >> > turns.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2)  Hetzers had one row of road wheels that ran
>> >> > between two guide horns on each track link similar
>> >> > to Series 900.  Series 4000 has a center tab
>> >> > that would work better for tanks with paired road
>> >> > wheels (e.g. PzKw IV, Panther V, Tiger VI, T-34,
>> >> > M1 Abrams).  I have photos of actual links for
>> >> > PzKw II, III, IV, V, and VI as well as Hetzer and
>> >> > Abrams if you would like to see them.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just called Intralox for pricing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 900 3.25 inch MTW flush grid grey polypropylene WITH TABS
>> >> > $71.06 / box (10 feet)
>> >> > weight 0.31 lb/ft
>> >> > 0.313 inch tall tracking tabs
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 900 3.25 inch MTW flush grid grey acetal WITH TABS
>> >> > $102.42 / box (10 feet)
>> >> > weight 0.42 lb/ft
>> >> > 0.313 inch tall tracking tabs
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 900 4.1 inch 12T acetal sprocket with 1.5 inch square bore
>> >> > $18.04 each
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 4009 85 mm sideflexing flu
>> > sh grid grey acetal
>> >> > $112.45 / box (10 feet)
>> >> > weight 1.11 lb/ft
>> >> > 0.500 inch tall center tabs
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 4000 3.9 inch 12T acetal sprocket with 1.5 inch square bore
>> >> > $12.88 each
>> >> >
>> >> > Hetzer #T010, PzKw IV #T012 and PzKw IV #T015
>> >> > all use Series 900 3.25 inch MTW flush grid grey
>> >> > polypropylene with tabs.  I think that Tiger #T021
>> >> > uses Series 900 4.5 inch MTW flat top with tabs.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately, you must buy conveyor from Intralox
>> >> > by the box (10 feet) and most of our tanks require 12 to
>> >> > 14 feet of track.
>> >> >
>> >> > Series 4000 is only available in acetal material.
>> >> > Because Series 4000 uses stainless steel pins
>> >> > it weighs about 3 times as much as Series 900
>> >> > (6.66 lb per 6 ft track versus 1.86 lb per 6 ft track).
>> >> >
>> >> > The center tab for Series 4000 is much taller than
>> >> > Series 900 (0.500 inches versus 0.313 inches) which
>> >> > could help prevent throwing track.  Also you will
>> >> > only need one sprocket per track for Series 4000
>> >> > whereas I use two sprockets per track for Series
>> >> > 900.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bottom line - I think that Series 4000 could work
>> >> > well.  Give it a try.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would be pleased to answer more questions
>> >> > by private Email <anvilus9-at-adelphia.net> or
>> >> > through the general forum at
>> >> > <tanks-at-rctankcombat.com> .
>> >> >
>> >> > Best wishes,
>> >> > Joe
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > **********************************************
>> >> > Joe Sommer
>> >> > 2378 Nantucket Circle, State College, PA 16803
>> >> > 814.234.4773     anvilus9-at-adelphia.net
>> >> > http://www.anvilus.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
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