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From: "erik kump" <ebkump-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: engineering report
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:41:39 -0500
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

     Ah, but it isn't a question of the length of the track changing, but 
rather the displacement of the track. I don't have any handy-dandy 
illustrations, but if you imagine either the front or rear road wheel being 
pushed up (as in driving over an obstacle), then you've just changed 
shortened the distance around all the wheels (road, drive, idler, return), 
reducing tension. Now, if it's a large obstacle and the hull is pitched up, 
then the other road wheels will drop, increasing tension again. Of course 
this is all ignoring the fact that you will need some burly spring pressure 
to keep the road wheels pushed down when you tension the system. Then again, 
maybe I'm just talking out of my ass.
     The cogs from that page look to have good compatability with the TTS. 
But I think Steve is on to something with the Christie drive system. If 
memory serves, the Christie drive puts the drive power to one or more pairs 
of the road wheels. That allows the tank to drive even without the treads 
on. If the road wheels themselves were powered, then the tension of the 
track would be a far smaller issue on a friction drive, as the weight of the 
tank itself would give the necessary friction.
     One problem that immediately springs to mind with it though is that if 
the driven road wheel lost contact with the track (think Mr. Tyng's photo op 
with the rocket launcher guy), then that track would be effectively dead. 
Maybe drive the front and rear road wheels? Of course, with the Christie 
drive you have added the chore of driving a suspended wheel. Probably the 
easiest way to upgrade an existing TTS to suspension would be with the cogs. 
Sorry, I tend to ramble when I think I know what I'm talking about.

Erik "pay no attention to the man behind the email" Kump

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From: "paul needham" <paul_needham60-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: engineering report
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:41 +0000
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

Steve

i don't see why suspension won't work with TTS the length of the track can only get less [ i.e less friction ] if the tensioner goes slack not if a road wheel goes up or down ?

regards paul

>From: "SteveT44"
>Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: engineering report
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:29:12 -0500
>
>Steve Gusikoski wrote:
>
> >Having suspension gives you a great advantage when it comes to:
>-speed over ground,
>-not vibrating the internal parts
>-installing a camera and not needing to shock absorb it
>-Life span of your machine in general
>But I don't think it is achievable with a TTS friction drive.
>
>
>I agree that a suspended system will not work with a friction drive. To
>adapt the TTS to a suspension is just a matter of developing a cogged drive
>wheel that engages the inner track pieces. I've already started thinking of
>ways to build one.
>
>I've also come up with a half baked idea to retrofit the T005 with a
>suspension. Basically a minitature Christie suspension.
>
>Steve 'Where does it end?' Tyng
>
>


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