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From: "Steve Tyng" <stevet-at-stcharlesmd.com>
Subject: RE: SV: SV: oooooppppssss
Date: 6 Jun 2003 17:30:00 +0800
Reply-To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com

Jaysen,

The Tri-Pact kiddy car motor setup will get you on the field as quickly and 
inexpensively as possible.  Go for it.

You can always upgrade later to a Tyng Industries drive system, which BTW I have 
just finished rebuilding with my new monster motors!  I would publish my new speed 
figures here but I would like for Tri-Pact to learn them first hand during the 
upcomming Battle for Middle Maryland!  Tri-Pacts turret motors will be burning out 
left and right trying to track Tiger Killer across the field!  Frank, Will, and Paul 
- you better bring extras!!!!!

Steve '2-Fast & 2-Furious' Tyng  ;-)



 -----Original Message-----
From: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com [mailto:tanks-at-rctankcombat.com]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:40 PM
To: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
Cc: stevet-at-stcharlesmd.com
Subject: Re: SV: SV: oooooppppssss


Fredrik,

Thank you for your input.  I will, of course, consider all options and
suggestions at this point.    Among other things cost is a major
factor.  This is turning into an expensive toy..and I am on a simple retirement plan 
that does not leave a lot of money to play with...

In addition to the drill motors...there are other gears and chains to buy, as well, 
for the drive assembly...and until I look into it..Im at a loss....I have most of my 
design figured out for materials and costs...changing over might delay me even 
more....

But...I am taking what you are saying very seriously and under advisement.

The other thing I am keeping in mind....is that speed is fine..for open road...but 
you dont really have to move fast out of a shot, as long as you move.... and perhaps 
not even have to move very far, for a hit to be a miss....

The long and short of it is...I just have to see results that others are getting and 
weigh that against my money availability.  I would rather be a little slower than 
eveyone else..and be able to participate...than to try and spend more money that I 
have.


JD



Tholander wrote:
>
> Jaysen,
>
> As you're still in the planning stages as I understand it, perhaps you
> ought to reconsider your choice of powerpack? During the design of our
> tanks, we(me and my friend Christer) did some calculations regarding
> rpm and ratio's. But we were very uncertain over the amount of torque
> needed. So we did some trial and error development and would probably
> have continued with that if not Joe Somner on this list had been able
> to advice us to use cordless drills.
> I managed to lay my hands on a pair cherap cordless drills, complete
> with Hi and Low gear and all. They are 18V, max 16,5Nm each and you even
> get the charger and the battery included in the package along with
> something that can be tweaked into a speedcontrol complete with forwrad
> and reverse. In my case I paid just aroundf 60US$ each if I remember
> correctly.
>
> The weight also needs to be kept down, the target weight for my M1 is
> 20kg/45lbs, with a set of batteries.
>
> Christers tank, the only one yet driven under power, has a max speed
> on flat road of approx 9-11mph based upon estimates made from the
> following
> videosequence:
>
> http://temp.panvision.com/christerolsson/video/MOV00326.MPG
>
> The Jag in background is very close to 5m long, so you can estimate
> the speed based upon that.
>
> So my advice to you would be to consider if possible to change to some
> powerpack giving similar performance.
>
> Best regards
>
> Fredrik
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: tanks-admin-at-rctankcombat.com
> [mailto:tanks-admin-at-rctankcombat.com]
> För Jaysen Hayes
> Skickat: den 6 juni 2003 02:22
> Till: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> Ämne: Re: SV: oooooppppssss
>
> You read my mind....I am looking for the right
> gears...however..without having the gearbox yet, or any physical
> dementions..its a little rough...lol...but I would be happy with 4 or
> 5 mph.
>
> I plan on making my structure as light as I can...and perhaps less
> weight will equal more speed, who knows...
>
> Thank you for the compliment on my page.  If there are any other
> details that might be of interest, or that I overlooked..please let me
> know and I will post them...
>
> JD
>
> Tholander wrote:
> >
> > Your page looks great I must say, really easy to find the info. Just
> > a comment regarding the speed of your upcomng tank. My
> > recommendation would be to consider to alter the final drive ratio
> > so that you can achieve at least twice the speed predicted. 3mph
> > might be sufficient when you do combat but when driving on your own,
> > a little more speed certainly enhances the driving experience a bit.
> > Actually when I think of it, it can't possible do any harm having
> > more speed available even during combat....
> >
> > Good luck with your Pershing
> >
> > Fredrik
> >
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: tanks-admin-at-rctankcombat.com
> [mailto:tanks-admin-at-rctankcombat.com]
> > För Jaysen Hayes
> > Skickat: den 5 juni 2003 06:41
> > Till: tanks-at-rctankcombat.com
> > Ämne: Re: oooooppppssss
> >
> > laminated 1/4" ply and fiberglass...lol
> >
> > ray schwartz wrote:
> > >
> > > so what are you planning on building your hull out of ???
> > >
> > > On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 21:19:04 -0500 Jaysen Hayes
> > <scalemaster-at-charter.net>
> > > writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Was so anxious forgot to include the url...lmao
> > > >
> > > > http://scalemaster.netfirms.com/pershing.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > enjoy
> > > > JD
> > > >
> > >
> > > "they that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
> temporary
> > > safety deserve
> > > neither liberty nor safety"
> > > benjamin franklin,historical review of pennsylvania ,1759
> > >
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